“May we all become diamonds”…A Reflection on Outlander 5.08 “Famous Last Words”


You simply cannot talk about Outlander 508 “Famous Last Words” without talking about the episode’s silent movie extended metaphor. So, let’s get it out of the way…I got it, I just didn’t care for it.  The horror was minimized rather than strengthened by the stylized effect. Juxtapositioned against Roger’s obvious trauma, it just didn’t feel serious enough. I kept waiting for Snidely Whiplash to show up (even though Tim Downie’s Gov. Tyron was a good substitute). I felt the flashbacks could have worked, seeing Roger’s eyes behind that mask was very powerful, but the flickering silent movie presentation took me out of the story.  Once again, I know what they tried to do, the silence, the movement from black and white to color, but this was ROGER hanging from a tree, not Penelope Pureheart tied to a railroad track. I needed to HEAR the commotion, panic, and anguish. So, having stated my opinion on the matter, as I’m sure many will, let me say I felt the rest of the episode was strong.  I always think Outlander shines when they focus on relationships, it is what makes it unique and watchable tv.

I know that the title of this episode “Famous Last Words” should be an obvious guide to what this episode was about.  Words said or left unsaid was definitely a theme worthy of delving into, but what stood out for me was how we all deal with the unimaginable, unexpected, and unfortunate.  I continue to be amazed by how timely these episodes are.  I can’t help but make comparisons with the unimaginable, unexpected, and unfortunate times we are currently experiencing.  The world as we know it has changed, probably forever.  How we will all deal with that is happening in real-time.  I find myself fluctuating between hope and despair sometimes hourly. The unimaginable, unexpected, and unfortunate has come to visit us all. Our plans, our dreams, our well-being, our safety are threatened and like Young Ian, many of us don’t know how to go on or if we even can.


The episode opened with some lovely backstory.  Roger in his element was a joy to behold.  As a teacher, I felt the power of his words as he challenged young minds to think, to examine their response to the world around them, and to consider what legacy they might one day leave.  Words are indeed Roger’s stock and trade, his weapon.  He reminded us and his students that words are powerful and that they can wound and so, we must be careful how we use them.  Roger strives to make his words count and his deeds match.  He hopes that in the end, he will have lived a life worthy of those he loves. The irony that he was unable to have last words is not lost on me nor the fact that using his weapon to try to save Murtaugh and Morag led to the loss of a hugely significant part of his identity…his voice…his words. He is not the man he once was and as a result, like Clementine, he may be lost and gone forever.

Rik Rankin’s performance of a traumatized Roger was moving.  I’m always amazed when actors can communicate everything without saying anything.  His eyes were haunted, his demeanor subdued to the point of pain, and his attempts to use his voice excruciating to watch.  I felt the sharp needles when he swallowed and choked along with him when he tried to speak. I was moved to tears by his attempt to express his gratitude to Ian.  He is the shell of the man he once was.


How magical must Jamie think the future to be, full of cures for wee invisible beasties (don’t we wish) like the germs that make you sick and so, maybe they have a cure for something else invisible too…grief.  Claire assures him that no, the future has no cure for the heartache of losing someone, only time can cure such things.  When she said this, I was overwhelmed by how many people are grieving right now.  How raw and immediate is their grief, time hasn’t had a chance to cure them, however, I’m not sure we are ever truly cured of grief. We just find a new normal that includes our grief.

I found myself sadly smiling at Jamie self-medicating with whiskey because it is such a normal universal way to deal with things we can’t control. I think there are a lot of folks hoisting a drink right now.  Here in Ohio, our governor has a press conference every day at 2o’clock.  Folks have started calling it “Wine with DeWine” time (there are t-shirts).  The occasional need for whiskey aside, I have always admired Jamie’s emotional maturity.  He is allowing himself to feel and to share his grief with Claire and Jocasta.  With time, he will find a way to live without Murtagh.  Ian is another story.  We aren’t let in on the details of what happened to Ian in the Mowhawk village or the reason for his return, but it is obvious that something is wrong. Like Roger, he is no longer the man he once was, he isn’t the Ian we all knew and loved, but neither is he Mowhawk.  You can see the struggle he has to acclimate himself to life on the Ridge.  I was relieved to see John Bell play Ian with the same earnestness.  It is obvious he is now a man, but there are hints of the old wee Ian.  Lauren Lyle’s Marsali continues to be a revelation. She steals every scene she is in with her portrayal of our spunky Scottish lass.  Marsali has no idea how much her heartfelt admission of guilt means to Ian.  No, he reassures her, it is a good thing to feel you belong somewhere.  We all want Ian to feel he belongs in this family.


Roger being saved wasn’t enough.  His body is home, but HE isn’t and no amount of cojoling and patience will bring him back to the man Brianna loves.  Her fear is palpable.  She is losing him.  It all comes to a head when she walks in and finds Marsali picking up her tarot cards from the floor and Roger holding on to the Hanged Man card.  She tries to reassure him that she understands his loss and how, ultimately, it doesn’t matter to her how he sounds. This scene reminded me so much of Claire and Jamie in the Abbey. Bree loves him and will take him any way she can get him. Bravo to the actors for letting us see Bree’s fear and frustration and Roger’s pain at his inability to react the way he wants to, to give her what she needs from him. She needs to know that he is coming back and that he won’t forever be the hanged man. He cannot reassure her.

Soon after, she sends him off with some wisdom in the form of a piece of paper that is able to bend and fold and adapt.  Because it allows itself to be manipulated, it becomes a new creature, able to soar.  There is a reason paper, she says, is a gift for first wedding anniversaries and why diamonds are the gift for couples who have been married for 60 years.  She wants them to be like a precious diamond, the hardest substance on earth, able to withstand the pressures of life.  It was an excellent analogy and a heart-tugging hope.  Roger packs the plane and heads off to be useful, surveying the 5000 acres gifted as compensation from Governor Tyron.


Claire discovers missing hemlock and voices her fears to Jamie that maybe Roger is in so much pain he might want to end his life.  We then discover it is Roger’s traveling companion Ian who cannot live with the pain of losing his wife. He symbolically buries his weapon, his hatchet.  He will no longer fight.  He wants the peace death will bring him.  But, the fates intervene when Roger, who has had his own epiphany, kicks away the poison tea before Ian can drink it.  Roger picks up his weapon, he uses his words to save Ian. They ride home to …fight.

Sing us a song

Roger returns to Brianna.  He tells her even though he was saved, a part of him died that day.  She does understand, she too survived a dark time.  He thought he knew what his last words would be, what his life would be, but circumstances changed and changed him.  In the end, it wasn’t his words that mattered, it was the people in his life, specifically her.  He will always sing for her, even if she isn’t there or even when his voice is unable.  He has allowed himself to become the paper airplane, so that he can have the chance to become a diamond.

May we all become diamonds

Our lives have been hijacked by an invisible wee beastie.  Like Ian, we haven’t the words yet to express our fear and grief. Many of us have difficult decisions to make, life-altering decisions. Like Jamie and Jocasta, we have to find a new normal.  Like Marsali, we have to grab on to happiness and belonging where we can find it.  Like Bree, we must hold on to hope. Like Roger and Ian, we must pick up our weapons and fight.  May we all weather the storm and emerge knowing what truly matters, may we all become diamonds.

God Bless,







67 thoughts on ““May we all become diamonds”…A Reflection on Outlander 5.08 “Famous Last Words”

  1. Hi, Beth! I got it too, but I didn’t care for it either. It was really distracting to me. I’m sure others loved it. Sounds like Richard liked it. I loved the episode as a whole…most tissues used this season so far. I absolutely whooped when I saw the arrow in the boar. I knew who had loosed it, and was so happy to see young Ian back again. Can’t wait to see more of him. My husband asked me what his problem was. He isn’t a book reader. I told him he’d just have to wait and see! And this was the first episode where I watched the end credits in their entirety. Why? I loved Bree and Roger singing together….lovely! “I will always sing for you.” …le sigh… – Dawn

  2. Jane

    I totally agree with you in regard to the use of the silent movie. It was a great idea but maybe for another scenario that is less serious.. I think that John Bell was spectacular in his portrayal of new Ian. He was just a bit scary and a bit scared. Perfect.
    Your relating this episode to our current situation is poignant. I have a daughter who just had her first baby – she is the administrator of a nursing home – that has had 3 Covid deaths – so far. I fear for her going back to work May 1 – my son is a nurse who works in a covid designated facility – I fear for him. My mother is 78 still working full time – my son lives with her. So I fear for her. Who knows when we can take a break from the fear and isolation. I am thankful for my home -my husband – my health. And my job! As a school teacher I am blessed to have a steady income – remote learning is for the birds but hey .. adapt! Summer will come.

  3. Terry

    Last evening as I watched ep 8 my mind kept flitting to you and wondering what you would say about this episode. You did not disappoint me and your revelations as usual made me nod my head in agreement. Your musings are a wonderful companion to the episode. Stay safe and well
    Btw what do/did you teach?

  4. Violet Daraitis

    I always look forward to your words. You seem to be able to tap into the essence of the story, and I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

  5. Anne

    I didn’t mind the silent movie. I thought what they were trying to do worked, but to me the fact that they did it that way was not important. All the rest of the episode, which you wrote about brilliantly, is what was important. The timeliness in particular! I thought 507 was timely, ha! Little did I know what 508 would do to me. I have been dealing with this pandemic intellectually and scientifically ( I am a retired Physician Assistant) until 508! Sometime during that episode I was emotionally overwhelmed by Roger and Ian and I cried, then I cried for the health care workers, the dead, the families, all of humanity, the planet and everything else I had been suppressing. 508 opened the flood gates and it will take a while for me to get them closed again. That was some powerful storytelling and wonderful acting by Rik Rankin and John Bell! ( of course I was obviously overdue for a good cry!)
    Thanks for writing this I always look forward to your thoughts!

  6. cfinklein@gmail.com

    Hi Beth!

    So glad you wrote this week because I too found a lot of depth & meaning in the story given the details developed. As far as the way they illustrated Roger’s handling of his hanging – it was okay and a method not expected. But it was the significance of Ian’s unexplained grief, his interaction on subliminal levels with Roger’s psychology and then the left over grief on the part of Jamie & Jocasta.

    What means so much is the way Outlander handles emotions and below the surface meanings each of us can identify with. I usually watch each episode at least 3 or 4 times to catch every hint of what’s actually happening. The costumes, music and above all the acting grab immediate attention but it’s the story itself and the impact of being able to identify with so much of it that packs a wallop often. Then I love being able to compare my reactions to what your interpretation implies. You have a way of capturing the sidelines of feelings that are there but not always recognized. I’m so grateful for your thoughts because when all is said & done you frequently parallel my thoughts exactly. Thanks, Beth!

    What is it about this entire story that has me addicted and mesmerized still after almost 5 full seasons? A grand love story told from the perspective of various souls that radiates even no in our 21st century just as vividly as it did in the 18th. Timeless and rich with heartfelt emotions. I for one love it! Your writing is the icing on the cake!!!!



  7. Shopping Jam

    I. too felt the ‘silent movie’ took me out of the episode every, single, time it was shown. There is so much that happens in The Fiery Cross that I was sad to see precious episode time with that. Yes we get the image they were trying to send, but Roger’s eyes looking through the cloth hood on his head said that to me and more so without taking me out of the episode. Sad they took time for what to me was an attempt at cute story telling – not needed, not necessary, and in my opinion distracting from the emotions of the episode.

      • Beth

        Exactly how I felt. Fiery Cross is my least favorite of the books but in the grand scheme of the story, all of the information is a necessary part of the backdrop. Every time they cut to this Woody Allen-ish clever device, I resented them using precious minutes as we count down to the final episode. It will be at least a year before we can move on to the next book!

  8. eataylo1

    Wonderful recap, Beth. You always manage to pick out the gold from the dross. I, also, didn’t like the stylized gimmick of the fladbacks, thought lumping Roger’s and Ian’s depressions together cheapened them both. None of us get exactly the life we picture but adapting to whatever life slings at us makes us who we are. I find it interesting that Roger’s “final” thoughts are of Bree, but Murtagh’s are of Ellen. Thank you for your well considered thoughts!!

  9. Lisa N.

    Beth, thanks for your great recap. I didn’t so much mind the silent movie affect. I was actually grateful we didn’t have to fully live (or re-live) Roger’s harrowing (almost) hanging. It was horrific enough in the book! I thought this episode was beautifully acted. Especially Jocasta, Roger and Ian. Really well done. And no, there’s no cure for grief and there’s no getting over or rid of it. Exactly as you say, your grief becomes a part of you and you live with it. I hope you and your family are well. Take good care and God bless you. May He bless us all.

  10. jshipleyj

    Beth, as always, your analysis is spot on. I enjoyed the silent movie, but as a book reader, I’ve read and re-read the hanging and aftermath too many times, so my mind filled in the missing blanks. Both Roger and Ian were almost chilling in their portrayal of grief, depression, and loss of purpose. Danielle Berrow’s notations on the script are really insightful. So glad those are available. I think this is the best episode for me since Season 1.

  11. Hi Beth, great recap. In the beginning I didn’t like the silent movie take they took to show us Roger’s hanging. As the episode progressed I did understand their motive in doing it that way but you’re right, it didn’t capture the horror the way the book does. I would have preferred a more “bookish” adaptation. Now that’s out of the way I will say I thought his was a very strong episode.
    While showing us Roger’s crawl out of his hell they managed to remind us of Jamie’s struggle after Wentworth and Bree’s struggle after Bonnet’s attack. I loved seeing wee Ian but oh, how my heart broke looking at both Ian’s and Roger’s anguish.
    I’m so glad I know what’s causing Ian’s heartache non bookies must be very confused.
    Marsali playing with tarot cards just didn’t feel right, I doubt it was something she would do – but what the heck! She truly shed a ray of sunshine into what was otherwise a very somber episode. I’m surprised at how little Cesar is involved. I’d like to see them include Fergus more.
    Rik was wonderful, without saying a word he managed to convey the depth of Roger’s dispare. Sophie showed her acting chops too as I felt he frustration pleading and begging Roger to help himself. John Bell is the perfect Ian just how I pictured him. Can’t wait to see more of him.
    They did manage to cram a lot into that hour and I have to admit it left me scratching my head to recall which book some of the scenes came from. I hope they allow Jamie to say Diana’s famous line at the end of this series. I was afraid they would have Roger say it to Bree 😀

  12. Susan Mills

    I couldn’t agree more. It was a beautiful episode. And the words in between I didn’t like at all. While I appreciate what they tried to achieve I cannot help but wish we had seen his rescue in real time with the real urgency felt to save him. I was disappointed but did ultimately love the episode as a whole. I wanted to hear Brianna’s fear in her words to Roger and Jamie’s reassurance to Roger that he was alive and would be well. Reading those words did not have the same effect. The acting was superb. And YAY Ian. 🙂

  13. jehscribbler

    Thank you for this, especially the last paragraph. You have put into words the feeling I had about how this episode, in a way the writers, actors, and director couldn’t have known at the time they filmed it, mirrors our situation in the world right now.
    I wish we had a governor whose name lent itself to a T-shirt that might lighten our days, but we live in Illinois and ‘Spritzer with Pritzker’ doesn’t quite work, does it?! I do live in Chicago where we are having fun with our Mayor’s solemn demeanor as she tells people to stay home, stay safe. She has a great sense of humor about herself, thankfully.

  14. Betty

    Beth – I didn’t mind the intro being a silent film – but when it continued and kept coming back…it was distracting. I felt a lot of time was wasted on repeated scenes. When you saw Jamie’s trauma- and even Brees nightmares and Claire’s WWII flashbacks as well – it wasn’t the same scene over and over. I know they added to the b/w scene each time – but come on already. I felt like the episode was short because of it. Now all the rest of the episode was great. But I kept thinking they wasted precious story time – less of the book will be explored. I also was thinking- “wow that episode didnt take much to fim for they keep replaying that same scene. “

  15. Renata Brannen

    Dear Beth as usual a thoughtful and insightful blog. I did like the silent movie bit as I felt it enabled us to focus on the main theme of the episode – facing trauma, fear and grief. I almost feel not seeing the hanging in a realistic way was the price we had to pay for keeping Murtagh alive and for the trauma of his death. It would have been too much of the same with Roger’s hanging and was a clever way to get through it quickly to focus on the aftermath.
    Thank you for your blogs and keep safe from this terrible vicious “wee bestie” x

  16. Betty

    Hi Beth. Thank you for another insightful review. You always seem to be able to put words around my own reactions. However, on reflection, I found I didn’t mind the short black and white flashbacks recurring throughout the episode, although I would have preferred the immediate reaction to the hanging to have played out in full. That way, it would be have been something all of the main characters would have experienced.

    I liked your interpretation of the Oxford tutorial. While it was very familiar to me, reminding me of dusty seminars in gothic surroundings in my own university days, I had thought it laboured the point a bit too much. And when did Bree ever visit Roger in Oxford?

    I was so hoping they would bring back wee Ian early, and I am so happy to see him. When he told Jamie that he and Claire had secrets, did you notice the startled look on Jamie’s face. And later, when Ian was fumbling with the hemlock, was that a wee brown book he was holding?

    So much conveyed and emoted by both Roger and Ian, without words.

    Ps this is from them other Betty’. First time I’ve posted this series but always look forward to your review.

    • Glad to hear from you Betty. I enjoyed the Oxford flashback, but agree where was this information previous. It would have helped in roger and Bree’s character development

  17. Beth

    I’d like to add that I still struggle with the actress who portrays Brianna. I think this character was miscast. Her performances are not consistently authentic. Just my opinion.

  18. Betsy

    Thank you for your poignant words. Your metaphors are so comforting in these unbelievable times. I look forward to your summation and insights every week.
    I found the silent movie bits jarring, but felt that was the intention. No matter how ordinary the day or task Roger could not overcome the trauma to his psyche- I felt the insertion of the b&w showed that to the viewer.

    As a former special ed high school English teacher with a BA in history; (Not completely qualified to teach English but I stumbled through); the silent movie bits made me recall was “The Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge.” My students were always dismayed at the silent movie treatment of that story but you could hear a pin drop as they watched the short film! The parallels to Ep508 had me thinking someone was an Owl Creek fan.

    I do believe that all the actors deserve accolades for these past few episodes. Despite a rocky start Season 5 is becoming an honest reflection of the source material and I am enjoying watching and analyzing each episode with much less angst than previous seasons.

  19. Joan Slaw

    Thank you for that awe inspiring blog. I also saw the parallel o the times we are living. How fortuitous of them. How did they know? Anyway. I love your blog. Keep them coming. Stay well and safe.

    Sent from my iPad


  20. judy52sa

    Lovely review, Beth, and agree pretty much with everything you said. I do realize that with each repetition of the ‘silent film’ recall in Roger’s mind, we see progressively more detail, telling the whole story, I suppose. I too get the ‘silence’ theme…inability to find words, etc. But it wasn’t truly an effective vehicle, IMO, to convey the horror of Roger’s experience, as well as the trauma experienced by Bree, Jamie and Claire when they come upon him and rescue him from the hanging. Can’t imagine the extreme anxiety and desperation with which all of them reacted and responded until they were able to see that Roger indeed was able to be revived and breathing again. Had this all been played out ‘live,’ in color, in one action sequence….think it would have been more effective. It tended to be distracting throughout the episode….wasn’t it used six different times? Way too much…definitely MBR overkill. Overall, the episode was yet another strong one; however, I do wish there had been more focus and concentration on Jamie’s (and Claire’s) mourning/grief for Murtagh’s loss. We got two brief scenes…I could have used more. For as grand and significant a character as Murtagh was, it seemed “less” than what we expected and perhaps what the character deserved. “Murtagh,” on the other hand, might have been encouraging them to “move along”; can just hear him saying, “What’s done is done; get on with it, man!”

    Thank you for your insights! I am sad that we have only 4 episodes left.

  21. Lorraine Grzena

    Wonderful review Beth, as usual. Many folks expressed the poignant acting of Rik and John Bell, as Roger and wee Ian. I agree Rik’s and John’s presentation of the characters was spot on. But to step out of those scenes for a second, imagine how hard it must have been for the actors to maintain the intensity of sadness, and only being able to express that scene over and over again without speaking, while filming in the morning, after lunch, before “happy hour”. Kudos to them both.

  22. Nancy

    I, of course, almost always agree with what you post. But I totally got the black and white silent picture thing. Bree and Roger mentioned it in the opening scene, so it didn’t jar me or make me question what was going on. The whole episode was filled with love, heartache, joy and emotion. Jocasta’s broken singing to Murtagh made me cry. Seeing Ian, so grown up? Roger’s detailed trauma throughout was incredible and made those silent pictures just make sense. To me, I guess. I loved it all. This episode proved that there is just so much more to Outlander than just Jamie and Claire. Don’t get me wrong. I’ll always love them.

    But Roger will always sing for Bree. ❤️❤️

  23. jshipleyj

    I just wanted to add that I found Sophie’s portrayal of Bree in this episode to be very good. She is growing as an actress, and I think she made a major leap in this episode.

  24. Debra

    I find that I look forward to your reviews more than watching this season of Outlander. Your meticulous attention to detail is amazing. I thought the silent movie hanging scene was over done. In this case, less is more would have been sufficient. The acting was indeed superb in this episode! Sophie, Richard, and John really shined.

    Disappointments for me this season are with Jaimie’s character, the big house set, and costumes. I keep looking for the Jaimie of the books and haven’t quite seen him yet. The big house and surrounding grounds (although beautiful,) are too grand for the back country of eighteenth century American Colonies. The costumes are also beautiful, but too nice for everyday wear during that place and time. Just a few thoughts. However, I do think the production quality is still one of the best on tv and will continue to watch this show. Thank you for your insights.

    • jshipleyj

      I agree that the big house, costumes, etc., are all out of wack with both the books and western North Carolina’s backcountry in the 1770s. It’s an ongoing problem. Otherwise, I love this season much more than Season 4. That was even more out of wack. I grew up in Maryland and Virginia in the 1950s, and know that even then, a black person with an injury would NOT have been brought into the major house. And there are no mountains in the background along the coast highways from Georgia to Wilmington. Oh well. Artistic license. At least in Season 5 they got good film of the mountains to use as background for Fraser’s Ridge.

  25. Cathy Ritter

    I liked the silent movie element to Roger’s memories of his hanging but there were a bit too many flashbacks!! Just like all the flashbacks in another episode this season to Claire in the 60s.

    Thanks for your great blog!!

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  26. Janice Peck

    How poignant.. You covered the feelings and sentiments of many who have read all the books and watch this series with such love and admiration for characters and those involved in creating the series from the wonderful books. We are indeed in trying times and faith and family are what hold many of us in a state of hope for a better future. Thank you so much… Jan Peck – Reno, Nv. hoping….

  27. Leesa Rigby

    I always look forward to your thoughts on each episode. I did not like the black & white movie, either. It totally took away the gravity & sorrow that changed to joy & hope when they realized Roger wasn’t dead. We totally missed all of those reactions of Bree, Claire & Jamie. It would have been very painful to see, but would have been so much better than leaving it out. By the time we see them, they have moved forward, except Bree who is suffering along with Roger. I thought Rik Rankin was excellent in his portrayal of Roger’s sorrow & ptsd.

    I have come to love Sophie Skelton as Briana. In the beginning, I did not, but she has grown into this character, & her talent in showing the depth of emotions from grief, despair, trauma & pain, to be wonderful.

    John Bell’s portrayal of Ian’s grief is palpable. It hurts my heart to watch him. He & Rik were great together.

    I thought Sam was excellent, as always, in his grieving for Murtaugh. He & Catriona are both so perfect in every episode & really capture Jamie & Claire. I am so happy that they are producers, because It seems like the adaptation of the story from the book is much better this season. I feel like they really care about getting it right.

    I am an obsessed fan of both the books & the show & your blog helps me enjoy it even more. Thank you, Beth for taking the time to write about it.


  28. jshipleyj

    Beth…today I listened to Matt Robert’s podcast of E508. He clarified that the old time movie flashbacks (beyond the beginning of the episode) were stand-ins for the usual voiceover they have to explain what’s going through a character’s mind. Since Roger can’t talk, and he’s having regular PTSD flashes they show visually what he’s remembering. Toward the end, the color begins to return as Roger improves. In that perspective, I like them even more.

  29. Michele

    Beth, I avidly read all of your work. Enjoy your thoughts, insteps and empathy. I’ve never posted before . I didn’t think I could add much. But now I realize you need feedback or you won’t know I am probably one of many who read but don’t acknowledge you. Please don’t think your work is not valued. For us shy ones out there you must keep writing. Outlander has opened up new worlds for me to explore. I have investigated and learned so much history and mythology and homeopathy from it. Having you out there , learning from your insights, makes me feel I have a sister out there, exploring with me.

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